27| Game Of Thrones Writing: What Went Wrong
Update: 2019-06-12
Description
In this episode, we comment on the writing of Benioff and Weiss, some differences from Game of Thrones to the books A Song of Ice and Fire, and what went wrong with season 8.
We comment how some character arcs suffered since D&D no longer had material from George RR Martin to adapt, and how some choices culminated in this last season of GOT.
Contents:
00:00 Intro and comments on writing, D&D, and more.
4:20 Jaime Lannister: The former villain we came to love and his abrupt arc conclusion.
14:00 Arya: Differences from the books and her ending as Arya the Explorer
16:50 The killing of the Night King: What's wrong with Arya doing it?
18:15 More on Arya Stark
20:30 On Ned Stark's death and how it's different from some shocks in the series since season 5.
23:25 Jon Snow: Our beloved knows-nothing hero and what happened to his arc. From Night's Watch youngest commander to "she's my queen" sayer.
30:10 Tyrion Lannister: The awesome, smart, and witty Lannister. Or is he still?
34:40 Sansa Stark: how her arc differs from GRRM's work and more comments on the character
40:00 Dany, or Daenerys Targaryen: how she went mad in a snap, comments on her arc, the idea of white saviour, and comments on the choices in the series.
50:15 More issues with the killing of the Night King. How the ASOIAF and GOT lore wasn't used, how Bran's arc and his connection with the three-eyed raven didn't come to its full potential, and more.
56:36 Things we Liked in Game of Thrones. Yes! Gasp, they exist. Lots of really cool stuff.
59:30 More comments lore, Jon's Targaryen heritage not being relevant, D&D and how we admire them as producers and directors but not as writers, and what we hope for Star Wars.
Matt Bird's book including thoughts on subversion of expectations: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Story-Innovative-Perfecting-Captivating-ebook/dp/B01N7HV0CT
His article about expectations: http://www.secretsofstory.com/2010/05/storytellers-rulebook-15-defying.html
All memes and tweets belong to their original creators.
SPEAKERS: Denise and Lee
AUDIO AND VIDEO EDITING: Denise
MUSIC:
Intro:
Loyalty Freak music - Extra Metal
http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Loyalty_Freak_Music/HYPER_METAL_
Outro:
Stellardrone - Fermi Paradox
https://stellardrone.bandcamp.com/track/fermi-paradox
CONTACT:
EMAIL: lordsofthesith.podcast@gmail.com
TUMBLR: https://lordsofthesithpodcast.tumblr.com
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/LordSithPodcast
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LordSithPodcast
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lordsofthesith.podcast/
You can listen to our episodes at:
SOUNDCLOUD:
https://soundcloud.com/lordsofthesithpodcast
ITUNES:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lords-of-the-sith-podcast/id1419179407
We comment how some character arcs suffered since D&D no longer had material from George RR Martin to adapt, and how some choices culminated in this last season of GOT.
Contents:
00:00 Intro and comments on writing, D&D, and more.
4:20 Jaime Lannister: The former villain we came to love and his abrupt arc conclusion.
14:00 Arya: Differences from the books and her ending as Arya the Explorer
16:50 The killing of the Night King: What's wrong with Arya doing it?
18:15 More on Arya Stark
20:30 On Ned Stark's death and how it's different from some shocks in the series since season 5.
23:25 Jon Snow: Our beloved knows-nothing hero and what happened to his arc. From Night's Watch youngest commander to "she's my queen" sayer.
30:10 Tyrion Lannister: The awesome, smart, and witty Lannister. Or is he still?
34:40 Sansa Stark: how her arc differs from GRRM's work and more comments on the character
40:00 Dany, or Daenerys Targaryen: how she went mad in a snap, comments on her arc, the idea of white saviour, and comments on the choices in the series.
50:15 More issues with the killing of the Night King. How the ASOIAF and GOT lore wasn't used, how Bran's arc and his connection with the three-eyed raven didn't come to its full potential, and more.
56:36 Things we Liked in Game of Thrones. Yes! Gasp, they exist. Lots of really cool stuff.
59:30 More comments lore, Jon's Targaryen heritage not being relevant, D&D and how we admire them as producers and directors but not as writers, and what we hope for Star Wars.
Matt Bird's book including thoughts on subversion of expectations: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Story-Innovative-Perfecting-Captivating-ebook/dp/B01N7HV0CT
His article about expectations: http://www.secretsofstory.com/2010/05/storytellers-rulebook-15-defying.html
All memes and tweets belong to their original creators.
SPEAKERS: Denise and Lee
AUDIO AND VIDEO EDITING: Denise
MUSIC:
Intro:
Loyalty Freak music - Extra Metal
http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Loyalty_Freak_Music/HYPER_METAL_
Outro:
Stellardrone - Fermi Paradox
https://stellardrone.bandcamp.com/track/fermi-paradox
CONTACT:
EMAIL: lordsofthesith.podcast@gmail.com
TUMBLR: https://lordsofthesithpodcast.tumblr.com
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/LordSithPodcast
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LordSithPodcast
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/lordsofthesith.podcast/
You can listen to our episodes at:
SOUNDCLOUD:
https://soundcloud.com/lordsofthesithpodcast
ITUNES:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lords-of-the-sith-podcast/id1419179407
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